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Discount Coupon code ($50 off $500): SAVE50TGBATG Inverter: https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-6-5k-off-grid-inverter-6500ex-48-a/?ref=bkpkbxde Batteries: https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-lifepower4-lithium-battery-48v-100ah/?ref=bkpkbxde We make an EG4 6500-EX Communications cable to setup the all in one inverter to talk to the Lifepower 4 batteries from Signature Solar. You can create your own cable this way. Connection points Inverter: Pin 3 - Blue Pin 5 - Orange Battery: Pin 1 - Blue Pin 2 - Orange Timecode 0:00 - EG4 communication cable 0:29 - Tools needed 2:10 - Battery side cabling 5:30 - Inverter side cabling 9:30 - Testing the cable 10:37 - EG4 cable wrap up Tools: Klein tools crimper and terminals https://amzn.to/45JJmKi Knipex wire cutters https://amzn.to/44wpDNb Bulk cat 6 cable https://amzn.to/45oULiQ

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hey guys so I'm in need of a longer BMS hey guys so I'm in need of a longer BMS hey guys so I'm in need of a longer BMS Communications cable between my eg4 6500 Communications cable between my eg4 6500 Communications cable between my eg4 6500 ex and the live power 4 batteries it ex and the live power 4 batteries it ex and the live power 4 batteries it does come with one it seems to work does come with one it seems to work does come with one it seems to work generally pretty well but I just need generally pretty well but I just need generally pretty well but I just need one that's longer so today we're going one that's longer so today we're going one that's longer so today we're going to try to create one or one of our own to try to create one or one of our own to try to create one or one of our own all right just using standard cat 6K we all right just using standard cat 6K we all right just using standard cat 6K we could do it with cat 5e if you wanted to could do it with cat 5e if you wanted to could do it with cat 5e if you wanted to but I don't even know if this is going but I don't even know if this is going but I don't even know if this is going to work so let's go ahead and get to it all right in order to try to get this all right in order to try to get this all right in order to try to get this done today let's talk about some of the done today let's talk about some of the done today let's talk about some of the tools we're going to use you're tools we're going to use you're tools we're going to use you're obviously going to need some cable this obviously going to need some cable this obviously going to need some cable this right here is Cat6 cable uh you could right here is Cat6 cable uh you could right here is Cat6 cable uh you could probably get done with Cat5e I probably probably get done with Cat5e I probably probably get done with Cat5e I probably actually recommend CAT5 because it's actually recommend CAT5 because it's actually recommend CAT5 because it's easier to work with but you know this easier to work with but you know this easier to work with but you know this Cat6 and if you're using Cat6 I would Cat6 and if you're using Cat6 I would Cat6 and if you're using Cat6 I would highly recommend terminals or crimps or highly recommend terminals or crimps or highly recommend terminals or crimps or whatever you want to call them whatever you want to call them whatever you want to call them Terminators if you're using Cat6 I would Terminators if you're using Cat6 I would Terminators if you're using Cat6 I would highly recommend the pass-through ones I highly recommend the pass-through ones I highly recommend the pass-through ones I mean you're going to need the terminals mean you're going to need the terminals mean you're going to need the terminals regardless right but Cat6 use regardless right but Cat6 use regardless right but Cat6 use pass-through because it's so much easier pass-through because it's so much easier pass-through because it's so much easier to work with you'll see what I mean to work with you'll see what I mean to work with you'll see what I mean later what I mean by pass through is later what I mean by pass through is later what I mean by pass through is right here the the terminal is open so right here the the terminal is open so right here the the terminal is open so that the wires will pass through if you that the wires will pass through if you that the wires will pass through if you get adjusted that angle you can see and get adjusted that angle you can see and get adjusted that angle you can see and then you can crimp them and cut them off then you can crimp them and cut them off then you can crimp them and cut them off if you are using pasture you need to use if you are using pasture you need to use if you are using pasture you need to use the pass-through crimpers or else your the pass-through crimpers or else your the pass-through crimpers or else your life is just going to suck trust me you life is just going to suck trust me you life is just going to suck trust me you need to pass through crimpers for need to pass through crimpers for need to pass through crimpers for pass-through terminals you don't want to pass-through terminals you don't want to pass-through terminals you don't want to use the non-pass root crimpers because use the non-pass root crimpers because use the non-pass root crimpers because it'll you can get it done it's just it'll you can get it done it's just it'll you can get it done it's just gonna suck obviously boots I like to go gonna suck obviously boots I like to go gonna suck obviously boots I like to go ahead and just get the boot on here ahead and just get the boot on here ahead and just get the boot on here quickly mainly because you know I don't quickly mainly because you know I don't quickly mainly because you know I don't know how many times I've created cables know how many times I've created cables know how many times I've created cables and you know the blue for missing I have and you know the blue for missing I have and you know the blue for missing I have two different colors you know you can two different colors you know you can two different colors you know you can use whatever you want but I like to just use whatever you want but I like to just use whatever you want but I like to just delineate with that goes to the inverter delineate with that goes to the inverter delineate with that goes to the inverter versus which side goes to the battery versus which side goes to the battery versus which side goes to the battery this right here is a client tools a this right here is a client tools a this right here is a client tools a crimper cutter stripper all in one I crimper cutter stripper all in one I crimper cutter stripper all in one I would highly recommend this one and know would highly recommend this one and know would highly recommend this one and know this video is not sponsored nobody sent this video is not sponsored nobody sent this video is not sponsored nobody sent this to us we did buy this uh just with this to us we did buy this uh just with this to us we did buy this uh just with all the stuff that we've been using I all the stuff that we've been using I all the stuff that we've been using I realized this one and there's another realized this one and there's another realized this one and there's another one from Ideo I think that works pretty one from Ideo I think that works pretty one from Ideo I think that works pretty well but I really like this client tools well but I really like this client tools well but I really like this client tools one because it works you know pretty one because it works you know pretty one because it works you know pretty well obviously some diagonal cutters well obviously some diagonal cutters well obviously some diagonal cutters and then some linesman plaques you and then some linesman plaques you and then some linesman plaques you really don't need this one I just kind really don't need this one I just kind really don't need this one I just kind of have it laying around just in case of have it laying around just in case of have it laying around just in case but you know let's go ahead and get this but you know let's go ahead and get this but you know let's go ahead and get this started all right so if you need this started all right so if you need this started all right so if you need this tool or if you need link or description tool or if you need link or description tool or if you need link or description of any of these tools just check in the of any of these tools just check in the of any of these tools just check in the description it'll be there all right so description it'll be there all right so description it'll be there all right so take your servers uh put the wire take your servers uh put the wire take your servers uh put the wire through there cut off as much as you through there cut off as much as you through there cut off as much as you need or if you're using pasture you need or if you're using pasture you need or if you're using pasture you could cut off more mainly because you're could cut off more mainly because you're could cut off more mainly because you're just all going to cut them off you could just all going to cut them off you could just all going to cut them off you could take that out right we're gonna throw take that out right we're gonna throw take that out right we're gonna throw that out we're gonna take this rope here that out we're gonna take this rope here that out we're gonna take this rope here we're going to take our pliers cut that we're going to take our pliers cut that we're going to take our pliers cut that out then we're going to separate our out then we're going to separate our out then we're going to separate our orange and blue ones here and then I'm orange and blue ones here and then I'm orange and blue ones here and then I'm going to take this uh all the other ones going to take this uh all the other ones going to take this uh all the other ones right and then cut those off all right right and then cut those off all right right and then cut those off all right so now we're left with the wire orange so now we're left with the wire orange so now we're left with the wire orange and blue go ahead and uh un twist these and blue go ahead and uh un twist these and blue go ahead and uh un twist these um usually it's a lot easier than this um usually it's a lot easier than this um usually it's a lot easier than this but standing at a weird angle makes this but standing at a weird angle makes this but standing at a weird angle makes this a little bit challenging so I like to a little bit challenging so I like to a little bit challenging so I like to get to the bottom then just give it one get to the bottom then just give it one get to the bottom then just give it one extra twist mainly because that that's extra twist mainly because that that's extra twist mainly because that that's actually going to pass through and actually going to pass through and actually going to pass through and you're going to crimp it down there it you're going to crimp it down there it you're going to crimp it down there it makes it a little bit easier to get the makes it a little bit easier to get the makes it a little bit easier to get the job done all right so now we have these job done all right so now we have these job done all right so now we have these I checked the cable and from like a toe I checked the cable and from like a toe I checked the cable and from like a toe it just only uses two wires and it uses it just only uses two wires and it uses it just only uses two wires and it uses orange and blue so we're going to stick orange and blue so we're going to stick orange and blue so we're going to stick with that so we're going to cut this with that so we're going to cut this with that so we're going to cut this blue stripe off and this orange stripe blue stripe off and this orange stripe blue stripe off and this orange stripe off so I'm going to go ahead and cut off so I'm going to go ahead and cut off so I'm going to go ahead and cut that and that so now we're left with that and that so now we're left with that and that so now we're left with this so what I like to do at this point this so what I like to do at this point this so what I like to do at this point is just take something like screwdriver is just take something like screwdriver is just take something like screwdriver or pliers or something like that pull or pliers or something like that pull or pliers or something like that pull the two wires tight against this Edge the two wires tight against this Edge the two wires tight against this Edge because that helps really straighten because that helps really straighten because that helps really straighten them out right so as you can see there them out right so as you can see there them out right so as you can see there it's been straightened out okay if you it's been straightened out okay if you it's been straightened out okay if you really want to cut this and you know really want to cut this and you know really want to cut this and you know make this cleaner I would highly make this cleaner I would highly make this cleaner I would highly recommend that because it will make the recommend that because it will make the recommend that because it will make the whole job easier but if you can't then whole job easier but if you can't then whole job easier but if you can't then you know just suffer through it I guess you know just suffer through it I guess you know just suffer through it I guess once I do that I'll take these linesman once I do that I'll take these linesman once I do that I'll take these linesman pliers and just like flatten it out pliers and just like flatten it out pliers and just like flatten it out because that will really help it pass because that will really help it pass because that will really help it pass through the terminals or where you're through the terminals or where you're through the terminals or where you're going to crimp it on so going to crimp it on so going to crimp it on so after you hold these tight cut a nice after you hold these tight cut a nice after you hold these tight cut a nice straight edge I like to cut mine just at straight edge I like to cut mine just at straight edge I like to cut mine just at a little bit of an angle like so because a little bit of an angle like so because a little bit of an angle like so because it makes passing through happen at it makes passing through happen at it makes passing through happen at different times and that makes it a lot different times and that makes it a lot different times and that makes it a lot easier okay and what I did there was easier okay and what I did there was easier okay and what I did there was take a step ahead of myself and I did take a step ahead of myself and I did take a step ahead of myself and I did not put blue and orange first so we're not put blue and orange first so we're not put blue and orange first so we're going to use the blue and orange wires going to use the blue and orange wires going to use the blue and orange wires like so just like that like so just like that like so just like that and then we're going to pass it in and then we're going to pass it in and then we're going to pass it in through here we're going to be using through here we're going to be using through here we're going to be using pins one and two for the battery side pins one and two for the battery side pins one and two for the battery side now I'm using pins One and Two from the now I'm using pins One and Two from the now I'm using pins One and Two from the bottom okay so left pins one and two bottom okay so left pins one and two bottom okay so left pins one and two blue is number one and orange is number blue is number one and orange is number blue is number one and orange is number two okay so as you see here you see the two okay so as you see here you see the two okay so as you see here you see the pin or the wires just popping out push pin or the wires just popping out push pin or the wires just popping out push it in as much as you can to the uh the it in as much as you can to the uh the it in as much as you can to the uh the insulation or the outer edge goes inside insulation or the outer edge goes inside insulation or the outer edge goes inside of the terminal so that when you crimp of the terminal so that when you crimp of the terminal so that when you crimp it you're getting the spline and the it you're getting the spline and the it you're getting the spline and the cover inside of the crimp because that cover inside of the crimp because that cover inside of the crimp because that helps provide the strain relief okay as helps provide the strain relief okay as helps provide the strain relief okay as you can see here if you look from the you can see here if you look from the you can see here if you look from the bottom here you see one and two pins bottom here you see one and two pins bottom here you see one and two pins blue and orange are coming out we're blue and orange are coming out we're blue and orange are coming out we're going to take this crimper going to take this crimper going to take this crimper right slicer and we're gonna put it in right slicer and we're gonna put it in right slicer and we're gonna put it in through here just like so and as you see through here just like so and as you see through here just like so and as you see right here make sure you push it tight right here make sure you push it tight right here make sure you push it tight against it and then you crimp it check against it and then you crimp it check against it and then you crimp it check this out the wires have been cut off and now you the wires have been cut off and now you the wires have been cut off and now you have this crimp on pins one and two have this crimp on pins one and two have this crimp on pins one and two blue and orange just like that okay so blue and orange just like that okay so blue and orange just like that okay so we're going to repeat that process again we're going to repeat that process again we're going to repeat that process again after I put this boot on here so this after I put this boot on here so this after I put this boot on here so this white side is for the battery we're white side is for the battery we're white side is for the battery we're gonna try to go ahead and create one for gonna try to go ahead and create one for gonna try to go ahead and create one for the inverter pretty much repeat the same the inverter pretty much repeat the same the inverter pretty much repeat the same steps but uh just pin the wires just a steps but uh just pin the wires just a steps but uh just pin the wires just a little bit differently okay so we're little bit differently okay so we're little bit differently okay so we're going to try this here strip this uh going to try this here strip this uh going to try this here strip this uh outer jacket off outer jacket off outer jacket off take this out take this out take this out we're going to separate the blue and we're going to separate the blue and we're going to separate the blue and orange here after I cut this little orange here after I cut this little orange here after I cut this little out of here we're going to take or man out of here we're going to take or man out of here we're going to take or man trying to do it at a weird angle it's trying to do it at a weird angle it's trying to do it at a weird angle it's really getting to me so take these take really getting to me so take these take really getting to me so take these take your cutters your cutters your cutters cut these out I'm going to try to cut cut these out I'm going to try to cut cut these out I'm going to try to cut these as close to here as possible these as close to here as possible these as close to here as possible look at that just like that okay and look at that just like that okay and look at that just like that okay and then we're gonna untwist our orange and then we're gonna untwist our orange and then we're gonna untwist our orange and blue wires blue wires blue wires so go like that so go like that so go like that untwist it and when you get to the untwist it and when you get to the untwist it and when you get to the bottom right here untwist it just give bottom right here untwist it just give bottom right here untwist it just give it one more extra untwist because that it one more extra untwist because that it one more extra untwist because that really helps if you're doing this in really helps if you're doing this in really helps if you're doing this in like a data center or high you know like a data center or high you know like a data center or high you know talking high density wire places don't talking high density wire places don't talking high density wire places don't do that because that's going to help you do that because that's going to help you do that because that's going to help you know introduce crosstalk and stuff like know introduce crosstalk and stuff like know introduce crosstalk and stuff like that so but here we're not in that that so but here we're not in that that so but here we're not in that environment so don't worry about it I environment so don't worry about it I environment so don't worry about it I would not do this exactly the same way would not do this exactly the same way would not do this exactly the same way if I was working inside like a data if I was working inside like a data if I was working inside like a data center or anything like that okay so now center or anything like that okay so now center or anything like that okay so now we got this we're gonna remember we're we got this we're gonna remember we're we got this we're gonna remember we're using blue and orange so we're going to using blue and orange so we're going to using blue and orange so we're going to pull those back and we're going to cut pull those back and we're going to cut pull those back and we're going to cut off the uh blue and orange stripes as off the uh blue and orange stripes as off the uh blue and orange stripes as much as possible so here we go take this much as possible so here we go take this much as possible so here we go take this out here pull tight cut these out don't out here pull tight cut these out don't out here pull tight cut these out don't cut the blue and orange wires all right cut the blue and orange wires all right cut the blue and orange wires all right so blue and orange from the bottom we're so blue and orange from the bottom we're so blue and orange from the bottom we're going to be going blue first on then going to be going blue first on then going to be going blue first on then orange so make sure it's like that and orange so make sure it's like that and orange so make sure it's like that and then pull the wires tight against a flat then pull the wires tight against a flat then pull the wires tight against a flat Edge which helps straighten them out you Edge which helps straighten them out you Edge which helps straighten them out you see that see that see that this one could probably afford to go this one could probably afford to go this one could probably afford to go again because I didn't do that very well again because I didn't do that very well again because I didn't do that very well there you go blue and orange and then there you go blue and orange and then there you go blue and orange and then I'm going to come across and cut them at I'm going to come across and cut them at I'm going to come across and cut them at a angle just like that and then for the a angle just like that and then for the a angle just like that and then for the inverter side we're going to be going inverter side we're going to be going inverter side we're going to be going pins three for blue and five for orange pins three for blue and five for orange pins three for blue and five for orange okay so this is the part where you're okay so this is the part where you're okay so this is the part where you're gonna have to pay close attention to gonna have to pay close attention to gonna have to pay close attention to because you want to get pins one two because you want to get pins one two because you want to get pins one two three for blue and then orange you want three for blue and then orange you want three for blue and then orange you want to skip pin number four to skip pin number four to skip pin number four so that's failing miserably right there so that's failing miserably right there so that's failing miserably right there there we go so uh you can always double there we go so uh you can always double there we go so uh you can always double check it right here before you pass it check it right here before you pass it check it right here before you pass it through as you can see or maybe you through as you can see or maybe you through as you can see or maybe you can't see because we can't focus here can't see because we can't focus here can't see because we can't focus here the blue is on pin three and then the the blue is on pin three and then the the blue is on pin three and then the orange one is on pin five okay and orange one is on pin five okay and orange one is on pin five okay and that's why I highly recommend using the that's why I highly recommend using the that's why I highly recommend using the pass-through mainly because it makes pass-through mainly because it makes pass-through mainly because it makes this part so much easier and I forgot to this part so much easier and I forgot to this part so much easier and I forgot to just just just push this down with the lines and pliers push this down with the lines and pliers push this down with the lines and pliers which will help this part right here I'm which will help this part right here I'm which will help this part right here I'm sure passing through all five cables you sure passing through all five cables you sure passing through all five cables you know makes it easy but I don't know what know makes it easy but I don't know what know makes it easy but I don't know what the other cables are used for on this the other cables are used for on this the other cables are used for on this eg4 system so I'm not going to do that eg4 system so I'm not going to do that eg4 system so I'm not going to do that or all the the other wires and pins okay or all the the other wires and pins okay or all the the other wires and pins okay so just do one final check before you do so just do one final check before you do so just do one final check before you do the crimp look here three and five uh the crimp look here three and five uh the crimp look here three and five uh blue and orange all right and as I was blue and orange all right and as I was blue and orange all right and as I was telling you earlier I forgot about this telling you earlier I forgot about this telling you earlier I forgot about this uh then I want to go ahead and pull that uh then I want to go ahead and pull that uh then I want to go ahead and pull that out and put this in and let's go with out and put this in and let's go with out and put this in and let's go with the yes because I don't want to repeat the yes because I don't want to repeat the yes because I don't want to repeat this all right so we'll be right back this all right so we'll be right back this all right so we'll be right back and with the magic of editing we are and with the magic of editing we are and with the magic of editing we are back so all I did was just take it off back so all I did was just take it off back so all I did was just take it off put the boot on and come back as you can put the boot on and come back as you can put the boot on and come back as you can see here the blue and orange is still on see here the blue and orange is still on see here the blue and orange is still on pin three and five all right so we're pin three and five all right so we're pin three and five all right so we're going to take our crimper we're going to going to take our crimper we're going to going to take our crimper we're going to take this drop it in here like so make take this drop it in here like so make take this drop it in here like so make sure like I said the bulk of the meat of sure like I said the bulk of the meat of sure like I said the bulk of the meat of the cable is past this strain relief the cable is past this strain relief the cable is past this strain relief Point put it in through here as you can Point put it in through here as you can Point put it in through here as you can see here let's crimp this down there you go you can pull it out you can there you go you can pull it out you can there you go you can pull it out you can always do a tug test right but look at always do a tug test right but look at always do a tug test right but look at it so we got a pin three and five three it so we got a pin three and five three it so we got a pin three and five three on blue and then orange on five so on blue and then orange on five so on blue and then orange on five so that's what it looks like pass-through that's what it looks like pass-through that's what it looks like pass-through connectors are awesome okay so let's go connectors are awesome okay so let's go connectors are awesome okay so let's go over take this over to our inverter and over take this over to our inverter and over take this over to our inverter and battery and see if the communication battery and see if the communication battery and see if the communication actually works all right all right and actually works all right all right and actually works all right all right and here we are at the system okay so just here we are at the system okay so just here we are at the system okay so just to show you uh that this system does to show you uh that this system does to show you uh that this system does actually work this is what the original actually work this is what the original actually work this is what the original battery cable came with or the BMS battery cable came with or the BMS battery cable came with or the BMS Communications cable I believe if you go Communications cable I believe if you go Communications cable I believe if you go in here you can look at setting I think in here you can look at setting I think in here you can look at setting I think it was five or something like that which it was five or something like that which it was five or something like that which tells you the battery so battery tells you the battery so battery tells you the battery so battery communication we're using eg4 protocol communication we're using eg4 protocol communication we're using eg4 protocol this Communication cable does work okay this Communication cable does work okay this Communication cable does work okay just to show you that it is what's just to show you that it is what's just to show you that it is what's actually working is they can unplug it actually working is they can unplug it actually working is they can unplug it and should throw an error and should throw an error and should throw an error look at that fault error code 61 okay look at that fault error code 61 okay look at that fault error code 61 okay here's our cable if I remember correctly here's our cable if I remember correctly here's our cable if I remember correctly we said the black side goes to the we said the black side goes to the we said the black side goes to the inverter so we're going to go ahead and inverter so we're going to go ahead and inverter so we're going to go ahead and plug this into the BMS communication plug this into the BMS communication plug this into the BMS communication support maybe not BMS but the support maybe not BMS but the support maybe not BMS but the communications port and then we're going communications port and then we're going communications port and then we're going to take this white side and plug it into to take this white side and plug it into to take this white side and plug it into our battery bank here below all right our battery bank here below all right our battery bank here below all right here we go and just like that the fault has gone and just like that the fault has gone and just like that the fault has gone away and the cable does work okay let's away and the cable does work okay let's away and the cable does work okay let's see how much sunlight we're actually see how much sunlight we're actually see how much sunlight we're actually getting here on pv1 I only got one PV getting here on pv1 I only got one PV getting here on pv1 I only got one PV connected we're getting connected we're getting connected we're getting 643 watts of solar end so if you want to 643 watts of solar end so if you want to 643 watts of solar end so if you want to create the cable it does work all right create the cable it does work all right create the cable it does work all right all right look at that it worked all all right look at that it worked all all right look at that it worked all right so I'm really glad that it worked right so I'm really glad that it worked right so I'm really glad that it worked because I wasn't sure what was going to because I wasn't sure what was going to because I wasn't sure what was going to work or not I didn't test it or create work or not I didn't test it or create work or not I didn't test it or create ahead of time we just you know tried it ahead of time we just you know tried it ahead of time we just you know tried it for the first time so I'm glad that it for the first time so I'm glad that it for the first time so I'm glad that it worked hope this video helped you guys I worked hope this video helped you guys I worked hope this video helped you guys I know there's been a lot of you know know there's been a lot of you know know there's been a lot of you know Forum posts and stuff like that so I try Forum posts and stuff like that so I try Forum posts and stuff like that so I try to figure out which pins go to what and to figure out which pins go to what and to figure out which pins go to what and I couldn't find a really clear answer I couldn't find a really clear answer I couldn't find a really clear answer directly so I just looked at it and then directly so I just looked at it and then directly so I just looked at it and then let's see we could just create one all let's see we could just create one all let's see we could just create one all right so that's how you do it hope this right so that's how you do it hope this right so that's how you do it hope this video has helped you out just in case video has helped you out just in case video has helped you out just in case you wanted you know uh to make your own you wanted you know uh to make your own you wanted you know uh to make your own or you lost it or it got pulled out or or you lost it or it got pulled out or or you lost it or it got pulled out or broken or you just need longer that's broken or you just need longer that's broken or you just need longer that's how you would do it okay so if you like how you would do it okay so if you like how you would do it okay so if you like I said if you need a link or something I said if you need a link or something I said if you need a link or something like that to any of the tools that we like that to any of the tools that we like that to any of the tools that we use in this video check the description use in this video check the description use in this video check the description below and it should be there otherwise below and it should be there otherwise below and it should be there otherwise hope this video helped you guys out have hope this video helped you guys out have hope this video helped you guys out have a great day and I will see you guys next a great day and I will see you guys next a great day and I will see you guys next time time time laughs