Using nas for video editing - Synology ds1621+ review - should you edit video on a NAS performance

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Discount Coupon code ($50 off $500): SAVE50TGBATG We look into Editing 4k video on a NAS over 10 GBe on a macbookpro and Synology DS1621+. Although it you can have the NAS ( ds1621 plus ) in your workflow or part of your storage solution for video editing, we do not recommend editing on the NAS primarily due LATENCY. The latency introduced by going over the network and using spinning disks is multiple steps back in terms of performance for video editing. It would be fine to have the NAS in your workflow where you use it as your mass storage for source material, but to have your library and cache storages on it would be a mistake. Although you could get away with it, the latency introduced from it would drive people looking for a high performance and smooth solution crazy and away. Items used in video: Synology 6 bay NAS DiskStation DS1621+ (Diskless): https://amzn.to/3vAi72I Caldigit 10G connect: https://amzn.to/3eNMWKw Cable Matters Cat6a cable: https://amzn.to/2RnySiF Intel Ethernet Converged Network Adapter X540-T2: https://amzn.to/2SiTU2x BlackMagic Disk Speed Test ioping Synology DS1621+ is a powerful and compact 6-bay network attached storage solution designed to store and protect critical data assets. Today’s growing amount of unstructured data requires smarter and increasingly higher performance methods of storing, accessing, and collaborating. Designed for scalability, the DS1621+ enables you to start small, then expand as your data grows.

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hey what's up guys welcome back to the hey what's up guys welcome back to the hey what's up guys welcome back to the channel on today's episode we're going channel on today's episode we're going channel on today's episode we're going to talk about this to talk about this to talk about this the synology ds1621 plus and we're going the synology ds1621 plus and we're going the synology ds1621 plus and we're going to be talking about maybe if you should to be talking about maybe if you should to be talking about maybe if you should be using it for 4k be using it for 4k be using it for 4k editing or video editing or if you're a editing or video editing or if you're a editing or video editing or if you're a content creator and things like that content creator and things like that content creator and things like that it's not going to be a full it's not going to be a full it's not going to be a full comprehensive review of this item comprehensive review of this item comprehensive review of this item exactly it's going to be mainly focused exactly it's going to be mainly focused exactly it's going to be mainly focused around its performance around its performance around its performance and if you should be using it for video and if you should be using it for video and if you should be using it for video editing purposes editing purposes editing purposes so stick with us all right you guys so we picked this um all right you guys so we picked this um all right you guys so we picked this um synology ds1621 plus up synology ds1621 plus up synology ds1621 plus up a couple months ago it's been a while a couple months ago it's been a while a couple months ago it's been a while and we've been using it so we can pretty and we've been using it so we can pretty and we've been using it so we can pretty much give you um much give you um much give you um some some ideas about it we have been some some ideas about it we have been some some ideas about it we have been using technology products for a while using technology products for a while using technology products for a while ever since they first came out ever since they first came out ever since they first came out um i recently just upgraded to this one um i recently just upgraded to this one um i recently just upgraded to this one couple months ago couple months ago couple months ago from a ds213j i think or something like from a ds213j i think or something like from a ds213j i think or something like that and then also a rackstation 24 that and then also a rackstation 24 that and then also a rackstation 24 1 4 or something like that somewhere 1 4 or something like that somewhere 1 4 or something like that somewhere around that there's some rack station up around that there's some rack station up around that there's some rack station up there but anyways there but anyways there but anyways we still have those um but we picked we still have those um but we picked we still have those um but we picked this up mainly because it can do this up mainly because it can do this up mainly because it can do 10 gig purposes so we're going to be 10 gig purposes so we're going to be 10 gig purposes so we're going to be talking about that so this item talking about that so this item talking about that so this item and full disclosure nobody sent this to and full disclosure nobody sent this to and full disclosure nobody sent this to us we purchased this with our own monies us we purchased this with our own monies us we purchased this with our own monies the reason it looks a little bit beat up the reason it looks a little bit beat up the reason it looks a little bit beat up is because it was actually shipped in is because it was actually shipped in is because it was actually shipped in this box this box this box and we got a heavily discounted item and we got a heavily discounted item and we got a heavily discounted item from buying it from buying it from buying it from the amazon warehouse so it was i from the amazon warehouse so it was i from the amazon warehouse so it was i can't remember how much ridiculous can't remember how much ridiculous can't remember how much ridiculous amount ammonia was off but as most of amount ammonia was off but as most of amount ammonia was off but as most of you guys know on the channel you guys know on the channel you guys know on the channel don't buy anything at retail price so it don't buy anything at retail price so it don't buy anything at retail price so it was significantly discounted i'll was significantly discounted i'll was significantly discounted i'll probably put it in the probably put it in the probably put it in the uh description below but mainly because uh description below but mainly because uh description below but mainly because it was a it was a it was a used item maybe returned use or whatever used item maybe returned use or whatever used item maybe returned use or whatever it is but anyways it's been working fine it is but anyways it's been working fine it is but anyways it's been working fine so so so this is the box that really comes in this is the box that really comes in this is the box that really comes in we'll give you some stuff basic stuff we'll give you some stuff basic stuff we'll give you some stuff basic stuff here here here it this is one of the newer models um so it this is one of the newer models um so it this is one of the newer models um so it's a 1621 plus it's a 1621 plus it's a 1621 plus so this one has the amd ryzen 4 core cpu so this one has the amd ryzen 4 core cpu so this one has the amd ryzen 4 core cpu has support for two nvme slots has support for two nvme slots has support for two nvme slots it has the optional 10 gig capable pcie it has the optional 10 gig capable pcie it has the optional 10 gig capable pcie slot slot slot has expansion ports and the ram is has expansion ports and the ram is has expansion ports and the ram is upgradable upgradable upgradable when you get it or when it ships or what when you get it or when it ships or what when you get it or when it ships or what not it comes with not it comes with not it comes with one 4 gig stick it is upgradable i think one 4 gig stick it is upgradable i think one 4 gig stick it is upgradable i think to like 32 or 64 gigs if you're going to to like 32 or 64 gigs if you're going to to like 32 or 64 gigs if you're going to be doing something like that be doing something like that be doing something like that although i would say the process is although i would say the process is although i would say the process is probably going to be limiting you probably going to be limiting you probably going to be limiting you but i did upgrade my other models you but i did upgrade my other models you but i did upgrade my other models you could probably check that in other could probably check that in other could probably check that in other videos videos videos with i think it's called arch memory with i think it's called arch memory with i think it's called arch memory it's a direct replacement for the it's a direct replacement for the it's a direct replacement for the synology ram and it works perfectly synology ram and it works perfectly synology ram and it works perfectly significantly significantly significantly better cost and value oriented but it better cost and value oriented but it better cost and value oriented but it still works perfectly fine still works perfectly fine still works perfectly fine so like i said this is ds 1621 so like i said this is ds 1621 so like i said this is ds 1621 if you don't know how to read that model if you don't know how to read that model if you don't know how to read that model number how you basically read it is number how you basically read it is number how you basically read it is ds is a disk station lineup so it's kind ds is a disk station lineup so it's kind ds is a disk station lineup so it's kind of like sits on your desktop type thing of like sits on your desktop type thing of like sits on your desktop type thing rs like rackstation and stuff like that rs like rackstation and stuff like that rs like rackstation and stuff like that that's what the ds means that's what the ds means that's what the ds means 16 is pretty much the maximum number of 16 is pretty much the maximum number of 16 is pretty much the maximum number of drives drives drives one system can be capable of okay one system can be capable of okay one system can be capable of okay so in here this holds six drives right so in here this holds six drives right so in here this holds six drives right now now now okay it has two expansion ports on the okay it has two expansion ports on the okay it has two expansion ports on the back so if you back so if you back so if you come if you add all the expansion ports come if you add all the expansion ports come if you add all the expansion ports and things like that you can connect and things like that you can connect and things like that you can connect up to 16 drives to this unit okay up to 16 drives to this unit okay up to 16 drives to this unit okay and you have a 21 so this model was and you have a 21 so this model was and you have a 21 so this model was actually released actually released actually released in 2021 okay so this is a 2021 model in 2021 okay so this is a 2021 model in 2021 okay so this is a 2021 model that's how where that comes from that's how where that comes from that's how where that comes from plus so this is more of a value more plus so this is more of a value more plus so this is more of a value more performance a higher model tier than performance a higher model tier than performance a higher model tier than just the big just the big just the big just the basic ones without the plus a just the basic ones without the plus a just the basic ones without the plus a higher model one would higher model one would higher model one would on top of this would be xs plus or on top of this would be xs plus or on top of this would be xs plus or something like that so something like that so something like that so that's pretty much how you read that that's pretty much how you read that that's pretty much how you read that okay so we're going to get rid of this okay so we're going to get rid of this okay so we're going to get rid of this box i did purchase this thing here i did purchase this thing here i did purchase this thing here separately this right here is an separately this right here is an separately this right here is an intel r ethernet converge intel r ethernet converge intel r ethernet converge network adapter x540-t2 network adapter x540-t2 network adapter x540-t2 if you don't know what that means it if you don't know what that means it if you don't know what that means it pretty means much means it is a dual pretty means much means it is a dual pretty means much means it is a dual port port port base t 10 gigabit ethernet card based on base t 10 gigabit ethernet card based on base t 10 gigabit ethernet card based on the x540 chipset all right the x540 chipset all right the x540 chipset all right so we'll take you around to the back so we'll take you around to the back so we'll take you around to the back here real quick so here real quick so here real quick so you in order to install this car here you in order to install this car here you in order to install this car here you do have to unbolt or unscrew one two you do have to unbolt or unscrew one two you do have to unbolt or unscrew one two three four three four three four five six screws take this thing off and five six screws take this thing off and five six screws take this thing off and you put the card in you put the card in you put the card in and then you put it back in and and then you put it back in and and then you put it back in and pretty straightforward pcie and card pretty straightforward pcie and card pretty straightforward pcie and card installation there's really nothing to installation there's really nothing to installation there's really nothing to it okay it okay it okay it does have vents um so the car sits it does have vents um so the car sits it does have vents um so the car sits right here right here right here and most of you guys know pcie cars get and most of you guys know pcie cars get and most of you guys know pcie cars get pretty hot so it has vents right here pretty hot so it has vents right here pretty hot so it has vents right here that actually that actually that actually suck air through the through the vents suck air through the through the vents suck air through the through the vents and then and then and then allows air to get to the heatsink and allows air to get to the heatsink and allows air to get to the heatsink and then the pull the system pulls it out on then the pull the system pulls it out on then the pull the system pulls it out on the back with the the back with the the back with the with the fans that are located here okay with the fans that are located here okay with the fans that are located here okay so it does come with one two three four so it does come with one two three four so it does come with one two three four gigabit ethernet ports and gigabit ethernet ports and gigabit ethernet ports and here an optional two 10 gig e-ports and here an optional two 10 gig e-ports and here an optional two 10 gig e-ports and it does work it does work it does work perfectly fine no issues on this model perfectly fine no issues on this model perfectly fine no issues on this model this is a six hard drive model okay it this is a six hard drive model okay it this is a six hard drive model okay it does have does have does have a little key that it comes with that you a little key that it comes with that you a little key that it comes with that you can turn here so you don't accidentally can turn here so you don't accidentally can turn here so you don't accidentally unlock it unlock it unlock it on my system right now i did have it on my system right now i did have it on my system right now i did have it installed with installed with installed with this um the toshiba this um the toshiba this um the toshiba dta01 aca 200 okay dta01 aca 200 okay dta01 aca 200 okay this is a pretty old hard drive and we this is a pretty old hard drive and we this is a pretty old hard drive and we could probably go into the could probably go into the could probably go into the into the specs or whatnot and look at it into the specs or whatnot and look at it into the specs or whatnot and look at it but this one apparently it says but this one apparently it says but this one apparently it says manufactured in may 2015. manufactured in may 2015. manufactured in may 2015. obviously since this is year 21 this is obviously since this is year 21 this is obviously since this is year 21 this is pretty old um haven't been pretty old um haven't been pretty old um haven't been using it all the time i do have another using it all the time i do have another using it all the time i do have another zfs server with this mod zfs server with this mod zfs server with this mod with all these hard drives and it's been with all these hard drives and it's been with all these hard drives and it's been working out pretty well and had a bunch working out pretty well and had a bunch working out pretty well and had a bunch of spares laying around and of spares laying around and of spares laying around and with the current um kogit situation with the current um kogit situation with the current um kogit situation with with all the hard drives and i t with with all the hard drives and i t with with all the hard drives and i t and you know video cards and all that and you know video cards and all that and you know video cards and all that stuff on shortage i didn't really think stuff on shortage i didn't really think stuff on shortage i didn't really think it was it was it was smart to pay a ridiculous over surcharge smart to pay a ridiculous over surcharge smart to pay a ridiculous over surcharge on a hard drive so i just pulled out on a hard drive so i just pulled out on a hard drive so i just pulled out some of the spare some of the spare some of the spare spare drives that i had and then stuck spare drives that i had and then stuck spare drives that i had and then stuck them in there okay some of these drives them in there okay some of these drives them in there okay some of these drives i i i have been using in a previous disk have been using in a previous disk have been using in a previous disk station so you could we'll get in there station so you could we'll get in there station so you could we'll get in there and figure out how long they've been on and figure out how long they've been on and figure out how long they've been on but you could all that smart data will but you could all that smart data will but you could all that smart data will tell you pretty much how much it's been tell you pretty much how much it's been tell you pretty much how much it's been used used used so in this model or i have this so in this model or i have this so in this model or i have this my um this station set up with toshiba my um this station set up with toshiba my um this station set up with toshiba six of these drives and pretty much raid six of these drives and pretty much raid six of these drives and pretty much raid okay i mean that's what we're going to okay i mean that's what we're going to okay i mean that's what we're going to be testing with today be testing with today be testing with today because in reality and you really because in reality and you really because in reality and you really shouldn't be using raid 0 i guess if shouldn't be using raid 0 i guess if shouldn't be using raid 0 i guess if you're planning on actually you're planning on actually you're planning on actually making this like durable storage making this like durable storage making this like durable storage obviously because if you have one hard obviously because if you have one hard obviously because if you have one hard drive failure you drive failure you drive failure you pretty much screwed if you're using this pretty much screwed if you're using this pretty much screwed if you're using this for a caching device we're going to talk for a caching device we're going to talk for a caching device we're going to talk about why you probably shouldn't be about why you probably shouldn't be about why you probably shouldn't be doing that because doing that because doing that because it's just not that smart but in it's just not that smart but in it's just not that smart but in a real situation where you're actually a real situation where you're actually a real situation where you're actually going to be using it pretty heavily going to be using it pretty heavily going to be using it pretty heavily you do not want to be using raid 5 that you do not want to be using raid 5 that you do not want to be using raid 5 that should be deprecated i should be deprecated i should be deprecated i think in most production environments it think in most production environments it think in most production environments it probably is i mean raid 5 is great but probably is i mean raid 5 is great but probably is i mean raid 5 is great but if you have one hard drive failure if you have one hard drive failure if you have one hard drive failure your performance is severely impacted a your performance is severely impacted a your performance is severely impacted a lot of people have lot of people have lot of people have have issues and things like that with have issues and things like that with have issues and things like that with the you can't even rebuild the array the you can't even rebuild the array the you can't even rebuild the array with the hard drives being at such big with the hard drives being at such big with the hard drives being at such big capacity capacity capacity without even um being having another without even um being having another without even um being having another hard drive fail during that time or just hard drive fail during that time or just hard drive fail during that time or just takes forever to rebuild it takes forever to rebuild it takes forever to rebuild it okay so i would stay away personally okay so i would stay away personally okay so i would stay away personally from anything that's from anything that's from anything that's not raid 10 or raid 1 not raid 10 or raid 1 not raid 10 or raid 1 i would probably stay away from raid 0 i would probably stay away from raid 0 i would probably stay away from raid 0 unless you have like multiple of these unless you have like multiple of these unless you have like multiple of these and you can and you can and you can afford a single single one going down by afford a single single one going down by afford a single single one going down by putting in aj but putting in aj but putting in aj but i think you're probably watching this i think you're probably watching this i think you're probably watching this video you're probably not going to be video you're probably not going to be video you're probably not going to be doing that doing that doing that so in a real situation do not set it up so in a real situation do not set it up so in a real situation do not set it up with shr do not set it with shr2 avoid with shr do not set it with shr2 avoid with shr do not set it with shr2 avoid all that all that all that that jibber jabber jumbo whatever use that jibber jabber jumbo whatever use that jibber jabber jumbo whatever use raid 10 raid 10 raid 10 okay if you don't know what reg 10 is okay if you don't know what reg 10 is okay if you don't know what reg 10 is pretty much in this configuration with pretty much in this configuration with pretty much in this configuration with six hard drives six hard drives six hard drives you have three mirrored sets okay so you you have three mirrored sets okay so you you have three mirrored sets okay so you have these like for instance not this have these like for instance not this have these like for instance not this exact configuration but you have two exact configuration but you have two exact configuration but you have two hard drives and mirror two hard drives hard drives and mirror two hard drives hard drives and mirror two hard drives mirror and another two hard drive mirror mirror and another two hard drive mirror mirror and another two hard drive mirror and what that pretty much happens is you and what that pretty much happens is you and what that pretty much happens is you stripe all of those across stripe all of those across stripe all of those across the mirrors that way you're the mirrors that way you're the mirrors that way you're in a way you're kind of cutting your in a way you're kind of cutting your in a way you're kind of cutting your capacity a little bit in half or whatnot capacity a little bit in half or whatnot capacity a little bit in half or whatnot actually probably actually probably actually probably more in half but um if i do the math i more in half but um if i do the math i more in half but um if i do the math i can think about that can think about that can think about that but you're losing a lot of capacity but you're losing a lot of capacity but you're losing a lot of capacity that's for sure but you are gaining that's for sure but you are gaining that's for sure but you are gaining a lot in performance for instance with a lot in performance for instance with a lot in performance for instance with raid 0 you have obviously no right hit raid 0 you have obviously no right hit raid 0 you have obviously no right hit with raid 1 you have one right penalty with raid 1 you have one right penalty with raid 1 you have one right penalty hit depending on how you want to read it hit depending on how you want to read it hit depending on how you want to read it but with raid 5 raid 6 you get into all but with raid 5 raid 6 you get into all but with raid 5 raid 6 you get into all these nasty these nasty these nasty parody read write penalty hits and parody read write penalty hits and parody read write penalty hits and things like that and if you're trying to things like that and if you're trying to things like that and if you're trying to use it for use it for use it for video editing you do not want any of video editing you do not want any of video editing you do not want any of that you want to try to avoid that as that you want to try to avoid that as that you want to try to avoid that as much as possible much as possible much as possible because video editing scrubbing high because video editing scrubbing high because video editing scrubbing high speed scrubbing and all that kind of fun speed scrubbing and all that kind of fun speed scrubbing and all that kind of fun stuff stuff stuff you want to reduce the latency on that you want to reduce the latency on that you want to reduce the latency on that as much as possible okay as much as possible okay as much as possible okay so do not do anything that is not so do not do anything that is not so do not do anything that is not raid 10 okay that is going to raid 10 okay that is going to raid 10 okay that is going to if you don't use raid 10 okay so be if you don't use raid 10 okay so be if you don't use raid 10 okay so be warning you warning you warning you i would not do that all right so i would not do that all right so i would not do that all right so um interesting note here i do have i did um interesting note here i do have i did um interesting note here i do have i did run a few tests run a few tests run a few tests using an sfp card that has a using an sfp card that has a using an sfp card that has a super micro sap card does work perfectly super micro sap card does work perfectly super micro sap card does work perfectly fine in here fine in here fine in here i can probably throw a mod number a i can probably throw a mod number a i can probably throw a mod number a picture of it or something like that up picture of it or something like that up picture of it or something like that up here here here i also did use um i think was the intel i also did use um i think was the intel i also did use um i think was the intel sfp plus card sfp plus card sfp plus card that works fine i did connect it to the that works fine i did connect it to the that works fine i did connect it to the smp switch and everything like that smp switch and everything like that smp switch and everything like that but in the really short distances if but in the really short distances if but in the really short distances if you're using it in like a business in a you're using it in like a business in a you're using it in like a business in a household and you're probably like less household and you're probably like less household and you're probably like less than i want to say like 100 meters or than i want to say like 100 meters or than i want to say like 100 meters or whatnot whatnot whatnot you're not going to see that much you're not going to see that much you're not going to see that much benefit from fiber over benefit from fiber over benefit from fiber over sfp plus or fiber versus copper sfp plus or fiber versus copper sfp plus or fiber versus copper unless you're going long distances or unless you're going long distances or unless you're going long distances or unless you're unless you're in an area unless you're unless you're in an area unless you're unless you're in an area that has a lot of that has a lot of that has a lot of rf type interference and stuff like that rf type interference and stuff like that rf type interference and stuff like that but if you're using a good quality cat6a but if you're using a good quality cat6a but if you're using a good quality cat6a cable or better you won't really have cable or better you won't really have cable or better you won't really have that issue okay that issue okay that issue okay if you are sitting in some kind of if you are sitting in some kind of if you are sitting in some kind of business environment and this is sitting business environment and this is sitting business environment and this is sitting probably i don't know probably i don't know probably i don't know three stories down or whatnot or on the three stories down or whatnot or on the three stories down or whatnot or on the completely opposite side of the building completely opposite side of the building completely opposite side of the building a couple hundred meters away a couple hundred meters away a couple hundred meters away you should definitely be using sfp plus you should definitely be using sfp plus you should definitely be using sfp plus cards with fiber okay that's definitely cards with fiber okay that's definitely cards with fiber okay that's definitely the way to go the way to go the way to go but in a environment like this room kind but in a environment like this room kind but in a environment like this room kind of using it at my house and this is of using it at my house and this is of using it at my house and this is going to be sitting in like two doors going to be sitting in like two doors going to be sitting in like two doors down or whatnot down or whatnot down or whatnot three drawers down uh-huh different three drawers down uh-huh different three drawers down uh-huh different story if you guys know the band anyways story if you guys know the band anyways story if you guys know the band anyways if you if you are using an environment if you if you are using an environment if you if you are using an environment like i'm using it in you're not going to like i'm using it in you're not going to like i'm using it in you're not going to see that much benefit from see that much benefit from see that much benefit from fiber or copper okay so let me go ahead fiber or copper okay so let me go ahead fiber or copper okay so let me go ahead and grab the computer and grab the computer and grab the computer and we're going to go ahead and connect and we're going to go ahead and connect and we're going to go ahead and connect to it and what i'm basically going to do to it and what i'm basically going to do to it and what i'm basically going to do is have this connected to the local is have this connected to the local is have this connected to the local network network network on a different my basic local network on a different my basic local network on a different my basic local network and i'm going to connect and i'm going to connect and i'm going to connect directly to this thing using a macbook directly to this thing using a macbook directly to this thing using a macbook pro pro pro 16 with a 16 with a 16 with a probably like a cal digit 10 gig connect probably like a cal digit 10 gig connect probably like a cal digit 10 gig connect g type thing g type thing g type thing and connect it directly here on a 172 or and connect it directly here on a 172 or and connect it directly here on a 172 or complete server network that way i can complete server network that way i can complete server network that way i can route to it directly without going route to it directly without going route to it directly without going through a switch through a switch through a switch and we'll go through some of the and we'll go through some of the and we'll go through some of the benchmark tests that actually matter benchmark tests that actually matter benchmark tests that actually matter if you are doing video editing on an ass if you are doing video editing on an ass if you are doing video editing on an ass okay okay okay all right you guys and we're back and all right you guys and we're back and all right you guys and we're back and we're back here with the macbook pro we're back here with the macbook pro we're back here with the macbook pro retina usb c 16 inch whatever you want retina usb c 16 inch whatever you want retina usb c 16 inch whatever you want to call it to call it to call it this computer has i think thunderbolt 4 this computer has i think thunderbolt 4 this computer has i think thunderbolt 4 or something like that but it doesn't or something like that but it doesn't or something like that but it doesn't really matter because this 10 gig really matter because this 10 gig really matter because this 10 gig cal digit 10g connect is only running at cal digit 10g connect is only running at cal digit 10g connect is only running at thunderbolt 3 thunderbolt 3 thunderbolt 3 and it's fine because with thunderbolt 3 and it's fine because with thunderbolt 3 and it's fine because with thunderbolt 3 you can still get 10 gig all right you can still get 10 gig all right you can still get 10 gig all right so let's give you a quick rundown of how so let's give you a quick rundown of how so let's give you a quick rundown of how it's set up this macbook pro is it's set up this macbook pro is it's set up this macbook pro is connected to connected to connected to this cal digit 10 connect 10g this cal digit 10 connect 10g this cal digit 10 connect 10g using thunderbolt 3 using a cat6a using thunderbolt 3 using a cat6a using thunderbolt 3 using a cat6a cable that's roughly about i want to say cable that's roughly about i want to say cable that's roughly about i want to say 15 20 feet 15 20 feet 15 20 feet to the rack station or to the rack station or to the rack station or disk station 1621 plus disk station 1621 plus disk station 1621 plus which is right over there okay it's which is right over there okay it's which is right over there okay it's literally literally literally i could probably touch it if i had i i could probably touch it if i had i i could probably touch it if i had i don't know a little bit longer arms but don't know a little bit longer arms but don't know a little bit longer arms but it is not within screen here but it is it is not within screen here but it is it is not within screen here but it is sitting right next to us sitting right next to us sitting right next to us okay so let's go into the computer okay so let's go into the computer okay so let's go into the computer all right so on here we're connected all right so on here we're connected all right so on here we're connected directly i'm just checking out some of directly i'm just checking out some of directly i'm just checking out some of the stuff here let's check out what we the stuff here let's check out what we the stuff here let's check out what we have going on here have going on here have going on here on here we have see the drives here like on here we have see the drives here like on here we have see the drives here like i said they're not brand new but it's i said they're not brand new but it's i said they're not brand new but it's been on for been on for been on for i don't know four thousand six hundred i don't know four thousand six hundred i don't know four thousand six hundred thirteen hours so it's not brand new has thirteen hours so it's not brand new has thirteen hours so it's not brand new has been used a little bit but it's been used a little bit but it's been used a little bit but it's no by no means old okay and just to tell no by no means old okay and just to tell no by no means old okay and just to tell you what we got going on on here you what we got going on on here you what we got going on on here let's go and check let's go and check let's go and check the network preferences so if we go look the network preferences so if we go look the network preferences so if we go look at network preferences we have this at network preferences we have this at network preferences we have this network this computer is 162. 2. 14 network this computer is 162. 2. 14 network this computer is 162. 2.