hey what's guys back to the channel on hey what's guys back to the channel on hey what's guys back to the channel on today episode I want to talk to you today episode I want to talk to you today episode I want to talk to you about some of my favorite or my go-to about some of my favorite or my go-to about some of my favorite or my go-to solar panels okay so uh first off the solar panels okay so uh first off the solar panels okay so uh first off the first one here is an apos DNA bifacial first one here is an apos DNA bifacial first one here is an apos DNA bifacial 370 watt model right here and then this 370 watt model right here and then this 370 watt model right here and then this one right here is the Trina vertex 385 one right here is the Trina vertex 385 one right here is the Trina vertex 385 watt bifacial panel so both of them are watt bifacial panel so both of them are watt bifacial panel so both of them are bifacial both of them are close to the bifacial both of them are close to the bifacial both of them are close to the same size the train of vertex is maybe same size the train of vertex is maybe same size the train of vertex is maybe about two two and A4 maybe uh uh wider about two two and A4 maybe uh uh wider about two two and A4 maybe uh uh wider and just the hair taller but they're and just the hair taller but they're and just the hair taller but they're pretty much you know in the same class pretty much you know in the same class pretty much you know in the same class right like I said they're both by facial right like I said they're both by facial right like I said they're both by facial they're both right around 37385 Watts uh they're both right around 37385 Watts uh they're both right around 37385 Watts uh but the trainer like I said is maybe but the trainer like I said is maybe but the trainer like I said is maybe about 15 watts you know more but it is about 15 watts you know more but it is about 15 watts you know more but it is also a little bit larger okay but the also a little bit larger okay but the also a little bit larger okay but the point is if you look at them they're point is if you look at them they're point is if you look at them they're very similar in how they perform at very similar in how they perform at very similar in how they perform at least on paper which so we're going to least on paper which so we're going to least on paper which so we're going to find out if they really perform very find out if they really perform very find out if they really perform very well together but also they're some of well together but also they're some of well together but also they're some of my favorite mainly because the cost to my favorite mainly because the cost to my favorite mainly because the cost to Performance ratio okay so is that mean Performance ratio okay so is that mean Performance ratio okay so is that mean this app TOS panel I think right now is this app TOS panel I think right now is this app TOS panel I think right now is on sale or whatnot at signature solar on sale or whatnot at signature solar on sale or whatnot at signature solar which where we got it from about which where we got it from about which where we got it from about $104 is per panel I think um and that $104 is per panel I think um and that $104 is per panel I think um and that comes out to roughly around uh 28 cents comes out to roughly around uh 28 cents comes out to roughly around uh 28 cents per water or something like that so like per water or something like that so like per water or something like that so like I said that one's really good the vertex I said that one's really good the vertex I said that one's really good the vertex I think I got from uh Bean brothers and I think I got from uh Bean brothers and I think I got from uh Bean brothers and it was I want to say closer to about it was I want to say closer to about it was I want to say closer to about $140 so it's about $36 more expensive so $140 so it's about $36 more expensive so $140 so it's about $36 more expensive so it is a little bit bigger um and then I it is a little bit bigger um and then I it is a little bit bigger um and then I did not get the offer I think it was for did not get the offer I think it was for did not get the offer I think it was for like free shipping and stuff like that like free shipping and stuff like that like free shipping and stuff like that so it's just a little bit more but since so it's just a little bit more but since so it's just a little bit more but since I have you know many of those that we'd I have you know many of those that we'd I have you know many of those that we'd go ahead and check these two out today go ahead and check these two out today go ahead and check these two out today mainly because if you're looking at them mainly because if you're looking at them mainly because if you're looking at them you may you know probably be looking you may you know probably be looking you may you know probably be looking between these two right uh there is the between these two right uh there is the between these two right uh there is the other models for the app TOS panels other models for the app TOS panels other models for the app TOS panels right they have the 370 they have the right they have the 370 they have the right they have the 370 they have the 400 I believe and also the 440 uh the 400 I believe and also the 440 uh the 400 I believe and also the 440 uh the 400 is a little bit larger than the 370 400 is a little bit larger than the 370 400 is a little bit larger than the 370 obviously right that one may or may not obviously right that one may or may not obviously right that one may or may not be closer to the vertex 385 but today's be closer to the vertex 385 but today's be closer to the vertex 385 but today's episode we're going to be comparing episode we're going to be comparing episode we're going to be comparing these two so so let's get to these two so so let's get to these two so so let's get to it so here's two panels this right here it so here's two panels this right here it so here's two panels this right here is the apos DNA panel and this right is the apos DNA panel and this right is the apos DNA panel and this right here is the Trina of vertex panel uh here is the Trina of vertex panel uh here is the Trina of vertex panel uh we're looking at the backside right now we're looking at the backside right now we're looking at the backside right now you'll probably see the front side when you'll probably see the front side when you'll probably see the front side when we you know do the test or whatnot but we you know do the test or whatnot but we you know do the test or whatnot but we thought we look at the back side cu we thought we look at the back side cu we thought we look at the back side cu the back side is a little bit the back side is a little bit the back side is a little bit interesting okay so on the atos panel interesting okay so on the atos panel interesting okay so on the atos panel it'll look like the cells are spaced it'll look like the cells are spaced it'll look like the cells are spaced further apart right because you can see further apart right because you can see further apart right because you can see that this black line here is a little that this black line here is a little that this black line here is a little bit thicker but on the back side of the bit thicker but on the back side of the bit thicker but on the back side of the Trina panel they'll look very close Trina panel they'll look very close Trina panel they'll look very close together and I'll tell you right now together and I'll tell you right now together and I'll tell you right now that is not the case when you look at that is not the case when you look at that is not the case when you look at them from the front the cells are spaced them from the front the cells are spaced them from the front the cells are spaced pretty much you know the same width pretty much you know the same width pretty much you know the same width apart okay but for some reason on the apart okay but for some reason on the apart okay but for some reason on the back side of the app toos panels they back side of the app toos panels they back side of the app toos panels they have like a like some type of insulation have like a like some type of insulation have like a like some type of insulation or secure securement layer that's on the or secure securement layer that's on the or secure securement layer that's on the back side that makes it look like that back side that makes it look like that back side that makes it look like that uh but on the Trina it doesn't have that uh but on the Trina it doesn't have that uh but on the Trina it doesn't have that okay so the interesting thing about that okay so the interesting thing about that okay so the interesting thing about that is that the atos panel I think boasts a is that the atos panel I think boasts a is that the atos panel I think boasts a higher bifacial gain with the backside higher bifacial gain with the backside higher bifacial gain with the backside exposed than the Trina even though there exposed than the Trina even though there exposed than the Trina even though there seems to be less surface area of the seems to be less surface area of the seems to be less surface area of the cell exposed right so that's something I cell exposed right so that's something I cell exposed right so that's something I wanted to point out um it'll look like wanted to point out um it'll look like wanted to point out um it'll look like it has you know obviously if you do the it has you know obviously if you do the it has you know obviously if you do the mathematical math and figure all this mathematical math and figure all this mathematical math and figure all this out there will obviously be you know out there will obviously be you know out there will obviously be you know less exposed here uh than this right so less exposed here uh than this right so less exposed here uh than this right so that's something interesting to point that's something interesting to point that's something interesting to point out other than that there's really no out other than that there's really no out other than that there's really no fills or throws going on on the back fills or throws going on on the back fills or throws going on on the back side of these panels both of them have side of these panels both of them have side of these panels both of them have the same type of build quality as you the same type of build quality as you the same type of build quality as you can see they're almost the same height can see they're almost the same height can see they're almost the same height but technically uh one is just a little but technically uh one is just a little but technically uh one is just a little bit uh taller than the other it just bit uh taller than the other it just bit uh taller than the other it just looks at their same height mainly looks at their same height mainly looks at their same height mainly because you know it's just leaned because you know it's just leaned because you know it's just leaned backwards but the other thing to point backwards but the other thing to point backwards but the other thing to point out cuz it's something I thought about out cuz it's something I thought about out cuz it's something I thought about is that the lip on here are are about uh is that the lip on here are are about uh is that the lip on here are are about uh not big enough to mount uh optimizers on not big enough to mount uh optimizers on not big enough to mount uh optimizers on the top lip Okay so if you're going to the top lip Okay so if you're going to the top lip Okay so if you're going to mount optimizers on these panels you'll mount optimizers on these panels you'll mount optimizers on these panels you'll probably have to mount them on the side probably have to mount them on the side probably have to mount them on the side unless you somehow place the panels on unless you somehow place the panels on unless you somehow place the panels on the you know landscape mode cuz the lip the you know landscape mode cuz the lip the you know landscape mode cuz the lip on here is maybe about I'll say maybe 38 on here is maybe about I'll say maybe 38 on here is maybe about I'll say maybe 38 of an inch and here you got maybe an of an inch and here you got maybe an of an inch and here you got maybe an eighth of an inch lip here right so eighth of an inch lip here right so eighth of an inch lip here right so that's about as far as that goes so that's about as far as that goes so that's about as far as that goes so Optimizer wise you have to mount them Optimizer wise you have to mount them Optimizer wise you have to mount them there other than that you know the there other than that you know the there other than that you know the panels are very close to the same the panels are very close to the same the panels are very close to the same the Trina has maybe one mc4 connector that Trina has maybe one mc4 connector that Trina has maybe one mc4 connector that is just a pain to get off first panel is just a pain to get off first panel is just a pain to get off first panel we're going to be looking at here is a a we're going to be looking at here is a a we're going to be looking at here is a a Trina vertex panel and this is a bif Trina vertex panel and this is a bif Trina vertex panel and this is a bif facial facial facial 385 Watt panel and Trina warranties this 385 Watt panel and Trina warranties this 385 Watt panel and Trina warranties this product for about 25 years and somewhere product for about 25 years and somewhere product for about 25 years and somewhere on here they say somewhere around uh it on here they say somewhere around uh it on here they say somewhere around uh it has the lowest degradation of any panel has the lowest degradation of any panel has the lowest degradation of any panel uh so they warranting somewhere around uh so they warranting somewhere around uh so they warranting somewhere around like 2% uh degradation for this panel in like 2% uh degradation for this panel in like 2% uh degradation for this panel in the first year if you can somehow prove the first year if you can somehow prove the first year if you can somehow prove that and get warrantied all that stuff that and get warrantied all that stuff that and get warrantied all that stuff great good for you right uh the most great good for you right uh the most great good for you right uh the most important thing is that all of these important thing is that all of these important thing is that all of these panels are you know definitely sold in panels are you know definitely sold in panels are you know definitely sold in the US and in order to do that you're the US and in order to do that you're the US and in order to do that you're going to need to meet all these going to need to meet all these going to need to meet all these certifications right so all the panels certifications right so all the panels certifications right so all the panels going to be talking about our certified going to be talking about our certified going to be talking about our certified you know and you all listed and all of you know and you all listed and all of you know and you all listed and all of that good stuff here so uh talking that good stuff here so uh talking that good stuff here so uh talking quickly about this panel it's a 385 watt quickly about this panel it's a 385 watt quickly about this panel it's a 385 watt panel it has a maximum open circuit panel it has a maximum open circuit panel it has a maximum open circuit voltage of around 40. 6 and a short voltage of around 40. 6 and a short voltage of around 40.
6 and a short circuit voltage of around 12. 07 okay and circuit voltage of around 12. 07 okay and circuit voltage of around 12.
07 okay and as you mentioned earlier uh they're uh as you mentioned earlier uh they're uh as you mentioned earlier uh they're uh you know warrany this thing for about 2% you know warrany this thing for about 2% you know warrany this thing for about 2% uh degradation on the first year but the uh degradation on the first year but the uh degradation on the first year but the whole panel has a 25e warranty okay this whole panel has a 25e warranty okay this whole panel has a 25e warranty okay this panel weighs a whopping 46 6. 3 lb and panel weighs a whopping 46 6. 3 lb and panel weighs a whopping 46 6.
3 lb and has pretty much all the documentation has pretty much all the documentation has pretty much all the documentation you would need to try to figure out if you would need to try to figure out if you would need to try to figure out if you're going to mount it how much power you're going to mount it how much power you're going to mount it how much power it produces all of that good stuff okay it produces all of that good stuff okay it produces all of that good stuff okay the one thing that I didn't see on uh the one thing that I didn't see on uh the one thing that I didn't see on uh this data sheet was mainly around how this data sheet was mainly around how this data sheet was mainly around how much uh bifacial gain is achieved uh by much uh bifacial gain is achieved uh by much uh bifacial gain is achieved uh by it being bifacial but what they say is it being bifacial but what they say is it being bifacial but what they say is that it produces somewhere around that it produces somewhere around that it produces somewhere around maximum of up to 405 Watts okay so I maximum of up to 405 Watts okay so I maximum of up to 405 Watts okay so I purchased this pan uh from this company purchased this pan uh from this company purchased this pan uh from this company called Bean brothers and and just a called Bean brothers and and just a called Bean brothers and and just a quick shout out to them mainly because I quick shout out to them mainly because I quick shout out to them mainly because I had good experience with them but I will had good experience with them but I will had good experience with them but I will say I've had no uh relationship or say I've had no uh relationship or say I've had no uh relationship or sponsorship or anything like that in any sponsorship or anything like that in any sponsorship or anything like that in any way with this company um I just kind of way with this company um I just kind of way with this company um I just kind of came across this company I think it was came across this company I think it was came across this company I think it was on some type of post somebody referred on some type of post somebody referred on some type of post somebody referred to it and then you know I've placed a to it and then you know I've placed a to it and then you know I've placed a few orders with this company but like I few orders with this company but like I few orders with this company but like I said not affiliated in any way and they said not affiliated in any way and they said not affiliated in any way and they did not give me any discount or anything did not give me any discount or anything did not give me any discount or anything like that for this video they didn't like that for this video they didn't like that for this video they didn't even know we were making videos okay so even know we were making videos okay so even know we were making videos okay so the point is uh I ordered these panels the point is uh I ordered these panels the point is uh I ordered these panels from Bean Brothers I we ordered a lot of from Bean Brothers I we ordered a lot of from Bean Brothers I we ordered a lot of these panels so we got some kind of bulk these panels so we got some kind of bulk these panels so we got some kind of bulk pricing I'm pretty sure I did not pay pricing I'm pretty sure I did not pay pricing I'm pretty sure I did not pay anywhere near 175 bucks uh it I do think anywhere near 175 bucks uh it I do think anywhere near 175 bucks uh it I do think it was much less than that but we like I it was much less than that but we like I it was much less than that but we like I said we did order a lot of these panels said we did order a lot of these panels said we did order a lot of these panels so uh just a quick uh quick uh note so uh just a quick uh quick uh note so uh just a quick uh quick uh note about Bean Brothers um I do believe about Bean Brothers um I do believe about Bean Brothers um I do believe they're based out of Texas um at least they're based out of Texas um at least they're based out of Texas um at least all the times that we've dealt with them all the times that we've dealt with them all the times that we've dealt with them they seem to be in Texas um and we've they seem to be in Texas um and we've they seem to be in Texas um and we've had a lot of a good experience with this had a lot of a good experience with this had a lot of a good experience with this company like I said I'm not trying to company like I said I'm not trying to company like I said I'm not trying to just point this out but usually uh I do just point this out but usually uh I do just point this out but usually uh I do want to point out when you have good want to point out when you have good want to point out when you have good experiences or bad experiences but the experiences or bad experiences but the experiences or bad experiences but the main reason I'm pointing out good main reason I'm pointing out good main reason I'm pointing out good experien is that um if people have experien is that um if people have experien is that um if people have questioning if you can use this company questioning if you can use this company questioning if you can use this company to get quality service and good panels to get quality service and good panels to get quality service and good panels and you know they stand behind you know and you know they stand behind you know and you know they stand behind you know their their sale then that's something their their sale then that's something their their sale then that's something that I can definitely assure you that I that I can definitely assure you that I that I can definitely assure you that I personally experienced okay so uh on one personally experienced okay so uh on one personally experienced okay so uh on one of the shipments we've had two broken of the shipments we've had two broken of the shipments we've had two broken panels um I sent them an email pictures panels um I sent them an email pictures panels um I sent them an email pictures all that stuff they were quickly to all that stuff they were quickly to all that stuff they were quickly to respond they offered a few options how respond they offered a few options how respond they offered a few options how to proceed you know replacement refund to proceed you know replacement refund to proceed you know replacement refund but all the stuff what I personally but all the stuff what I personally but all the stuff what I personally decided to do was just get a refund on decided to do was just get a refund on decided to do was just get a refund on the two panels mainly because you know the two panels mainly because you know the two panels mainly because you know shipping it back dealing with all that shipping it back dealing with all that shipping it back dealing with all that stuff and them shipping two panels just stuff and them shipping two panels just stuff and them shipping two panels just seemed like ridiculous especially with seemed like ridiculous especially with seemed like ridiculous especially with the freight cost and all that stuff the freight cost and all that stuff the freight cost and all that stuff you'd have to get which means i' would you'd have to get which means i' would you'd have to get which means i' would have to buy another you know huge uh have to buy another you know huge uh have to buy another you know huge uh order to get those other panels it would order to get those other panels it would order to get those other panels it would just be stupid right so the point is um just be stupid right so the point is um just be stupid right so the point is um they give you a few options and are able they give you a few options and are able they give you a few options and are able to work with you but like I said um this to work with you but like I said um this to work with you but like I said um this these panels I think I paid maybe these panels I think I paid maybe these panels I think I paid maybe somewhere close to about 100 and I want somewhere close to about 100 and I want somewhere close to about 100 and I want to say around 40ish dollars maybe I want to say around 40ish dollars maybe I want to say around 40ish dollars maybe I want to say um but like I said we did buy to say um but like I said we did buy to say um but like I said we did buy bulk panel so that's something that you bulk panel so that's something that you bulk panel so that's something that you could ask them for quotes like bulk could ask them for quotes like bulk could ask them for quotes like bulk pricing so that's something I will pricing so that's something I will pricing so that's something I will definitely do okay the second uh panel definitely do okay the second uh panel definitely do okay the second uh panel we're looking at is this AB TOS panel we're looking at is this AB TOS panel we're looking at is this AB TOS panel and this is the DNA 120 by facial uh and this is the DNA 120 by facial uh and this is the DNA 120 by facial uh panel the model we have today is a panel the model we have today is a panel the model we have today is a 370 watt panel and according to the 370 watt panel and according to the 370 watt panel and according to the marketing they say produce up to 30% uh marketing they say produce up to 30% uh marketing they say produce up to 30% uh more energy with this bifacial panel more energy with this bifacial panel more energy with this bifacial panel right uh this apos panel is warranty for right uh this apos panel is warranty for right uh this apos panel is warranty for 30 years versus the 25 years um on the 30 years versus the 25 years um on the 30 years versus the 25 years um on the Trina panels and they have a different Trina panels and they have a different Trina panels and they have a different performance and linear performance uh performance and linear performance uh performance and linear performance uh warranty and all of this stuff pointed warranty and all of this stuff pointed warranty and all of this stuff pointed out but like I said this panel is also out but like I said this panel is also out but like I said this panel is also certified what the certification certified what the certification certified what the certification required to be able to sell this in the required to be able to sell this in the required to be able to sell this in the US okay so going over quickly uh this US okay so going over quickly uh this US okay so going over quickly uh this panel 375 watt panel has efficiency of panel 375 watt panel has efficiency of panel 375 watt panel has efficiency of about about about 20. 28 most of the solar modules these 20. 28 most of the solar modules these 20.
28 most of the solar modules these days are going to have about that uh days are going to have about that uh days are going to have about that uh range no super groundbreaking uh range no super groundbreaking uh range no super groundbreaking uh Discovery has been made where you know Discovery has been made where you know Discovery has been made where you know they just magically become 50 80 90% they just magically become 50 80 90% they just magically become 50 80 90% that's just crazy right now unheard of that's just crazy right now unheard of that's just crazy right now unheard of I'm sure some people are working on it I'm sure some people are working on it I'm sure some people are working on it but we haven't seen it in the market yet but we haven't seen it in the market yet but we haven't seen it in the market yet 40. 4 open circuit voltage and short 40. 4 open circuit voltage and short 40.
4 open circuit voltage and short circuit voltage of run circuit voltage of run circuit voltage of run 11. 26 um and this obviously has a 11. 26 um and this obviously has a 11.
26 um and this obviously has a maximum system voltage of around 1,500 maximum system voltage of around 1,500 maximum system voltage of around 1,500 per string okay uh the tr1 also has a per string okay uh the tr1 also has a per string okay uh the tr1 also has a high I think it may have been um 11 or, high I think it may have been um 11 or, high I think it may have been um 11 or, 1500 uh but I'm usually not pointing 1500 uh but I'm usually not pointing 1500 uh but I'm usually not pointing these out because most of the people these out because most of the people these out because most of the people building these I would say small to building these I would say small to building these I would say small to medium size arrays are using these Allin medium size arrays are using these Allin medium size arrays are using these Allin one type of inverters and those one type of inverters and those one type of inverters and those inverters usually only go up to maybe inverters usually only go up to maybe inverters usually only go up to maybe 450 maybe 500 on some of them um so you 450 maybe 500 on some of them um so you 450 maybe 500 on some of them um so you know you're obviously not going to max know you're obviously not going to max know you're obviously not going to max out the string on using those items or out the string on using those items or out the string on using those items or using those controllers okay so uh the using those controllers okay so uh the using those controllers okay so uh the other thing I want to point out here is other thing I want to point out here is other thing I want to point out here is that this panel weighs 42. 3 lb which is that this panel weighs 42. 3 lb which is that this panel weighs 42.
