Portable under seat power station 5 kwh | Victron Phoenix 48v 1200VA | #victronenergy

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Discount Coupon code ($50 off $500): SAVE50TGBATG Inverter: https://signaturesolar.com/phoenix-inverter-48-1200-120v-ve-direct-nema-gfci/?ref=bkpkbxde Battery used in video has been discontinued, but other similar batteries can be found. LiTIme 60 Ah: https://amzn.to/42c1UV3 LiTime 100 Ah: https://amzn.to/3CosgbL In this episode, we take a look at the best mobile power station that fits completely under the backseat of your truck. This power station system can power some power tools, boil water, power lights, power equipment, used for tailgating, used for camping, and so much more. This power station set up can power up to 1200 VA. It has a fully charged capacity of 5 kWh, which can be increased almost infinitely by using DC to DC charging from the car. This is rock solid shouldn't have any reliability problems and is all monitor using the app on your phone. Victron Phoenix Inverter 48/1200 | VE.Direct | 1200VA Output| 48VDC Input | 120VAC Output The Phoenix Inverter VE.Direct is a uniquely compact, low-frequency inverter with a built-in full bridge toroidal transformer allowing it to handle large surge capacity from inductive loads. The Phoenix is distinctly efficient, with around 10W standard idle consumption or as low as 1-2w in eco mode. Compared to larger inverters, idle consumption can often be upwards of 100W+. This feature alone sets this unit apart and makes it perfect for running continuous loads throughout a 24hr period with the most efficiency possible. Features Connection versatility with desktop computers and mobile devices Fully configurable: Low battery voltage alarm trip and reset levels Low battery voltage cut-off and restart levels Dynamic cut-off: load-dependent cut-off level Output: 120V 60 Hz In-and-output voltage, load percentage, and alarm monitoring Full-bridge PLUS toroidal transformer topology Short-circuit proof Overheat protection ECO Mode included Programmable remote power switch #litime #victronenergy #victronenergy #offgridsolar

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Che hey what's guys back to the channel in hey what's guys back to the channel in hey what's guys back to the channel in this episode I want to talk to you about this episode I want to talk to you about this episode I want to talk to you about this very mobile very reliable and very this very mobile very reliable and very this very mobile very reliable and very efficient system that you can have efficient system that you can have efficient system that you can have completely contained or off grid in the completely contained or off grid in the completely contained or off grid in the back of your vehicle in this particular back of your vehicle in this particular back of your vehicle in this particular instance it's in the back of a truck but instance it's in the back of a truck but instance it's in the back of a truck but you can put it in pretty much most you can put it in pretty much most you can put it in pretty much most vehicles that you would use or work out vehicles that you would use or work out vehicles that you would use or work out of or any of that stuff and it is very of or any of that stuff and it is very of or any of that stuff and it is very very very handy cannot emphasize that very very handy cannot emphasize that very very handy cannot emphasize that enough look at that we just boiled some enough look at that we just boiled some enough look at that we just boiled some water so if you want to know more about water so if you want to know more about water so if you want to know more about this stick with this stick with this stick with us all right so let's take a look at us all right so let's take a look at us all right so let's take a look at this system this system is going to be this system this system is going to be this system this system is going to be completely under the back seat of this completely under the back seat of this completely under the back seat of this truck and apologize for the mess cuz we truck and apologize for the mess cuz we truck and apologize for the mess cuz we got two kids and two dogs and when you got two kids and two dogs and when you got two kids and two dogs and when you got two kids and two dogs it's almost got two kids and two dogs it's almost got two kids and two dogs it's almost impossible to keep everything clean impossible to keep everything clean impossible to keep everything clean right so under the truck here is the right so under the truck here is the right so under the truck here is the battery this is a waterproof battery battery this is a waterproof battery battery this is a waterproof battery from eg4 this the life power 4 lfp 48 uh from eg4 this the life power 4 lfp 48 uh from eg4 this the life power 4 lfp 48 uh 100 so this is pretty much a a 48v 5 KW 100 so this is pretty much a a 48v 5 KW 100 so this is pretty much a a 48v 5 KW hour battery so 100 amp hour lithium hour battery so 100 amp hour lithium hour battery so 100 amp hour lithium iron phosphate battery is designed to be iron phosphate battery is designed to be iron phosphate battery is designed to be completely waterproof and unfortunately completely waterproof and unfortunately completely waterproof and unfortunately this is a battery they stopped making this is a battery they stopped making this is a battery they stopped making they discontinued but ever since then they discontinued but ever since then they discontinued but ever since then they've started carrying you know I they've started carrying you know I they've started carrying you know I think it was like a big battery branded think it was like a big battery branded think it was like a big battery branded uh replacements for this kind of stuff uh replacements for this kind of stuff uh replacements for this kind of stuff so I'm kind of disappointed that they so I'm kind of disappointed that they so I'm kind of disappointed that they don't make this anymore cuz I really do don't make this anymore cuz I really do don't make this anymore cuz I really do like this battery uh since it's like a like this battery uh since it's like a like this battery uh since it's like a drop in replacement for like other golf drop in replacement for like other golf drop in replacement for like other golf cart batteries and stuff like that but cart batteries and stuff like that but cart batteries and stuff like that but anyways not here to complain about that anyways not here to complain about that anyways not here to complain about that but just in case you wanted to find this but just in case you wanted to find this but just in case you wanted to find this battery and you can't find it it's battery and you can't find it it's battery and you can't find it it's because they've discontinued it but I because they've discontinued it but I because they've discontinued it but I will go ahead and say there are a lot of will go ahead and say there are a lot of will go ahead and say there are a lot of other branded batteries that are pretty other branded batteries that are pretty other branded batteries that are pretty much exactly the same or of similar type much exactly the same or of similar type much exactly the same or of similar type um that you can find that's readily um that you can find that's readily um that you can find that's readily available so if you're trying to build a available so if you're trying to build a available so if you're trying to build a system like this and you can't find this system like this and you can't find this system like this and you can't find this battery I would recommend either looking battery I would recommend either looking battery I would recommend either looking on the signature solar website for other on the signature solar website for other on the signature solar website for other Replacements that may be available at Replacements that may be available at Replacements that may be available at the time you're viewing this video or the time you're viewing this video or the time you're viewing this video or you can probably look at uh other you can probably look at uh other you can probably look at uh other retailers and see if you could find retailers and see if you could find retailers and see if you could find something that is comparable to this something that is comparable to this something that is comparable to this right but the point of this is this is a right but the point of this is this is a right but the point of this is this is a waterproof 5 KW hour 48 volt battery and waterproof 5 KW hour 48 volt battery and waterproof 5 KW hour 48 volt battery and as you can see right here because of the as you can see right here because of the as you can see right here because of the placement or because of how the back of placement or because of how the back of placement or because of how the back of the truck is set up it actually fits the truck is set up it actually fits the truck is set up it actually fits perfectly between this edge of the seat perfectly between this edge of the seat perfectly between this edge of the seat and then this uh chair lock position and then this uh chair lock position and then this uh chair lock position thing right so it doesn't really slide thing right so it doesn't really slide thing right so it doesn't really slide around too much and obviously there's a around too much and obviously there's a around too much and obviously there's a little bit room to slide this way back little bit room to slide this way back little bit room to slide this way back and forth but because the height of the and forth but because the height of the and forth but because the height of the battery kind of sits almost like battery kind of sits almost like battery kind of sits almost like perfectly right here um it doesn't perfectly right here um it doesn't perfectly right here um it doesn't really have when somebody's sitting down really have when somebody's sitting down really have when somebody's sitting down on it or the chair is down there's on it or the chair is down there's on it or the chair is down there's really no room for it to move right so really no room for it to move right so really no room for it to move right so uh right here I've kind of got a bunch uh right here I've kind of got a bunch uh right here I've kind of got a bunch of electrical tape and then you know of electrical tape and then you know of electrical tape and then you know white duct tape stuff on top of it white duct tape stuff on top of it white duct tape stuff on top of it mainly just because I didn't want kids mainly just because I didn't want kids mainly just because I didn't want kids to spill something or drop something in to spill something or drop something in to spill something or drop something in here and kind of short it across the top here and kind of short it across the top here and kind of short it across the top but you probably don't need to do that but you probably don't need to do that but you probably don't need to do that because you know once the seats are down because you know once the seats are down because you know once the seats are down just trying to get something to fall just trying to get something to fall just trying to get something to fall down in here is actually pretty down in here is actually pretty down in here is actually pretty difficult especially if it's a long difficult especially if it's a long difficult especially if it's a long metal piece you would have to stuff it metal piece you would have to stuff it metal piece you would have to stuff it but you know like I said for that it's but you know like I said for that it's but you know like I said for that it's just just good measure so go around to just just good measure so go around to just just good measure so go around to the other side and we can take a look at the other side and we can take a look at the other side and we can take a look at the inverter all right so coming around the inverter all right so coming around the inverter all right so coming around to this side let's take a look at the to this side let's take a look at the to this side let's take a look at the inverter this side is going to be a inverter this side is going to be a inverter this side is going to be a little bit more difficult mainly cuz we little bit more difficult mainly cuz we little bit more difficult mainly cuz we got this car seed installed but as you got this car seed installed but as you got this car seed installed but as you can see right here this right here is can see right here this right here is can see right here this right here is the victron Phoenix inverter let me get the victron Phoenix inverter let me get the victron Phoenix inverter let me get some of this other stuff out of the way some of this other stuff out of the way some of this other stuff out of the way and then if you look here this is the and then if you look here this is the and then if you look here this is the victron 48 volt Phoenix uh 1200 V a pure victron 48 volt Phoenix uh 1200 V a pure victron 48 volt Phoenix uh 1200 V a pure sine wave inverter this one we've also sine wave inverter this one we've also sine wave inverter this one we've also picked up from signature solar and I picked up from signature solar and I picked up from signature solar and I know they still have this one this one know they still have this one this one know they still have this one this one is still uh recent they're modern is still uh recent they're modern is still uh recent they're modern whatever you want to call it they're whatever you want to call it they're whatever you want to call it they're still making it and selling it um by still making it and selling it um by still making it and selling it um by victron and this is connected on the victron and this is connected on the victron and this is connected on the back end here you go take a look to this back end here you go take a look to this back end here you go take a look to this uh circuit breaker so this is a nater DC uh circuit breaker so this is a nater DC uh circuit breaker so this is a nater DC rated circuit breaker which is connected rated circuit breaker which is connected rated circuit breaker which is connected to the top of that red cable which is to the top of that red cable which is to the top of that red cable which is the other battery and it really breaks the other battery and it really breaks the other battery and it really breaks the circuit and then you can either uh the circuit and then you can either uh the circuit and then you can either uh turn it on and off right there and you turn it on and off right there and you turn it on and off right there and you also follows the red cable into this also follows the red cable into this also follows the red cable into this power this uh power pole quick connector power this uh power pole quick connector power this uh power pole quick connector right so this Anderson uh Quick Connect right so this Anderson uh Quick Connect right so this Anderson uh Quick Connect so this one is really nice especially if so this one is really nice especially if so this one is really nice especially if you haven't seen these before but it's you haven't seen these before but it's you haven't seen these before but it's almost impossible to install them in almost impossible to install them in almost impossible to install them in Reverse mainly because of their design Reverse mainly because of their design Reverse mainly because of their design and if we ever need to charge it we can and if we ever need to charge it we can and if we ever need to charge it we can just disconnect here and then charge it just disconnect here and then charge it just disconnect here and then charge it real quick but you don't technically real quick but you don't technically real quick but you don't technically need that uh breaker mainly because need that uh breaker mainly because need that uh breaker mainly because inside the BMS or inside the battery inside the BMS or inside the battery inside the BMS or inside the battery there is a self-contained BMS s which there is a self-contained BMS s which there is a self-contained BMS s which has a uh breaker or relay type thing has a uh breaker or relay type thing has a uh breaker or relay type thing that once it shuts off uh it it breaks that once it shuts off uh it it breaks that once it shuts off uh it it breaks the output to the terminals right and the output to the terminals right and the output to the terminals right and then after a certain amount of given then after a certain amount of given then after a certain amount of given time it'll flip it back on so you don't time it'll flip it back on so you don't time it'll flip it back on so you don't technically need this but I really like technically need this but I really like technically need this but I really like having it in here mainly because you having it in here mainly because you having it in here mainly because you have a physical control means to cut off have a physical control means to cut off have a physical control means to cut off the uh circuit or cut off the power the uh circuit or cut off the power the uh circuit or cut off the power coming out to these wires and that's one coming out to these wires and that's one coming out to these wires and that's one reason I really like having this uh if reason I really like having this uh if reason I really like having this uh if you're wondering how that's stuck on you're wondering how that's stuck on you're wondering how that's stuck on there it's really just a bunch of hot there it's really just a bunch of hot there it's really just a bunch of hot glue that's just holding it there in glue that's just holding it there in glue that's just holding it there in place and you might be worried thinking place and you might be worried thinking place and you might be worried thinking oh the hot glue is not going to be that oh the hot glue is not going to be that oh the hot glue is not going to be that great but you know hot glue actually great but you know hot glue actually great but you know hot glue actually holds really well if you're using the holds really well if you're using the holds really well if you're using the really good glue sticks so in my case I really good glue sticks so in my case I really good glue sticks so in my case I really like using the Stanley glue really like using the Stanley glue really like using the Stanley glue sticks cuz I found in my experience they sticks cuz I found in my experience they sticks cuz I found in my experience they actually hold the best and I've had no actually hold the best and I've had no actually hold the best and I've had no issues with that thing falling off any issues with that thing falling off any issues with that thing falling off any any means or anything like that anyways any means or anything like that anyways any means or anything like that anyways point is comes out of there comes into point is comes out of there comes into point is comes out of there comes into this quick connect and the other part of this quick connect and the other part of this quick connect and the other part of this quick connect connect to this this quick connect connect to this this quick connect connect to this victron 1200 VA inverter and then this victron 1200 VA inverter and then this victron 1200 VA inverter and then this inverter is really nice cuz it also has inverter is really nice cuz it also has inverter is really nice cuz it also has uh AC outputs right here two of them and uh AC outputs right here two of them and uh AC outputs right here two of them and it's GFCI built in the other thing it's GFCI built in the other thing it's GFCI built in the other thing that's connected on here take away some that's connected on here take away some that's connected on here take away some of this mess here is this uh ve direct of this mess here is this uh ve direct of this mess here is this uh ve direct bluetooth smart dongle so this is bluetooth smart dongle so this is bluetooth smart dongle so this is connected directly to the back of this connected directly to the back of this connected directly to the back of this which has an app and then you can which has an app and then you can which has an app and then you can control or monitor what's going on in control or monitor what's going on in control or monitor what's going on in here through the app so if I didn't here through the app so if I didn't here through the app so if I didn't mention it earlier that eg4 battery is mention it earlier that eg4 battery is mention it earlier that eg4 battery is also really nice because it it has an also really nice because it it has an also really nice because it it has an app that you can monitor and control or app that you can monitor and control or app that you can monitor and control or pretty much like you know figure out pretty much like you know figure out pretty much like you know figure out what's going on your uh specs like how what's going on your uh specs like how what's going on your uh specs like how much is coming out of the battery much is coming out of the battery much is coming out of the battery battery sell life um all that kind of battery sell life um all that kind of battery sell life um all that kind of stuff so we'll show you that in a bit stuff so we'll show you that in a bit stuff so we'll show you that in a bit but as you can see here this entire but as you can see here this entire but as you can see here this entire system is contained under the uh seats system is contained under the uh seats system is contained under the uh seats of the rear seats on this truck so it's of the rear seats on this truck so it's of the rear seats on this truck so it's really nice especially because if we really nice especially because if we really nice especially because if we need to go somewhere do some work which need to go somewhere do some work which need to go somewhere do some work which we've had to do not too long ago um we we've had to do not too long ago um we we've had to do not too long ago um we can charge pretty much power to battery can charge pretty much power to battery can charge pretty much power to battery like all day long out of here and if you like all day long out of here and if you like all day long out of here and if you go camping which we've done many times go camping which we've done many times go camping which we've done many times before you can just uh boil water from before you can just uh boil water from before you can just uh boil water from here you can run an induction quicker here you can run an induction quicker here you can run an induction quicker from here you can run lights and this from here you can run lights and this from here you can run lights and this battery right here is a 5 KW hour battery right here is a 5 KW hour battery right here is a 5 KW hour battery so you got a 5 kilowatt hours of battery so you got a 5 kilowatt hours of battery so you got a 5 kilowatt hours of use and um a little bit less mainly use and um a little bit less mainly use and um a little bit less mainly because inverter in efficiencies but because inverter in efficiencies but because inverter in efficiencies but this inverter is actually very efficient this inverter is actually very efficient this inverter is actually very efficient especially if you run on eco mode especially if you run on eco mode especially if you run on eco mode because it does this searching uh energy because it does this searching uh energy because it does this searching uh energy saving thing but anyways uh the other saving thing but anyways uh the other saving thing but anyways uh the other thing to point out on this inverter is thing to point out on this inverter is thing to point out on this inverter is that it is a low frequency Transformer that it is a low frequency Transformer that it is a low frequency Transformer based inverter we have another I think based inverter we have another I think based inverter we have another I think full review of this inverter on the full review of this inverter on the full review of this inverter on the channel so if you want to go check that channel so if you want to go check that channel so if you want to go check that out check it out this not meant to be out check it out this not meant to be out check it out this not meant to be review but I really do like this review but I really do like this review but I really do like this inverter mainly because it has a really inverter mainly because it has a really inverter mainly because it has a really good surge capacity and it is really good surge capacity and it is really good surge capacity and it is really reliable so uh in terms of something reliable so uh in terms of something reliable so uh in terms of something like this you want higher reliability like this you want higher reliability like this you want higher reliability because you don't want to be somewhere because you don't want to be somewhere because you don't want to be somewhere where you feel like you need that power where you feel like you need that power where you feel like you need that power and something is not working and I and something is not working and I and something is not working and I generally just keep the power switch to generally just keep the power switch to generally just keep the power switch to the inverter on so that all I really the inverter on so that all I really the inverter on so that all I really have to do is uh kick on and off the have to do is uh kick on and off the have to do is uh kick on and off the breaker as you can see here uh this breaker as you can see here uh this breaker as you can see here uh this light you can't really see it that well light you can't really see it that well light you can't really see it that well but this light is on green and that but this light is on green and that but this light is on green and that means it's pretty much ready to go uh means it's pretty much ready to go uh means it's pretty much ready to go uh you can see this victron energy you can see this victron energy you can see this victron energy bluetooth smart dongle um you know like bluetooth smart dongle um you know like bluetooth smart dongle um you know like I said it's blinking Bluetooth so we can I said it's blinking Bluetooth so we can I said it's blinking Bluetooth so we can connect to the F and get that going but connect to the F and get that going but connect to the F and get that going but right now I kind of have this uh heat right now I kind of have this uh heat right now I kind of have this uh heat gun plugged into it for load reasons gun plugged into it for load reasons gun plugged into it for load reasons right so we'll go ahead and hit the heat right so we'll go ahead and hit the heat right so we'll go ahead and hit the heat gun on as you can see here it comes on gun on as you can see here it comes on gun on as you can see here it comes on and it's now powered using this and it's now powered using this and it's now powered using this cable on this inverter right so let's go cable on this inverter right so let's go cable on this inverter right so let's go ahead and log into the app for the ahead and log into the app for the ahead and log into the app for the battery and the inverter and you can battery and the inverter and you can battery and the inverter and you can really see the monitoring that really really see the monitoring that really really see the monitoring that really goes on on this entire system so going goes on on this entire system so going goes on on this entire system so going into the eg4 battery app let's go take a into the eg4 battery app let's go take a into the eg4 battery app let's go take a look at that first and this right here look at that first and this right here look at that first and this right here is the eg4 monitor app that's designed is the eg4 monitor app that's designed is the eg4 monitor app that's designed to go with this battery as you can see to go with this battery as you can see to go with this battery as you can see right here it's connected to the battery right here it's connected to the battery right here it's connected to the battery and it's in a current state of and it's in a current state of and it's in a current state of discharging we did update or charge the discharging we did update or charge the discharging we did update or charge the battery recently so it's going to be % battery recently so it's going to be % battery recently so it's going to be % full but right now as you can see here full but right now as you can see here full but right now as you can see here the voltage is you know dropping a the voltage is you know dropping a the voltage is you know dropping a little bit fluctuating and then it's little bit fluctuating and then it's little bit fluctuating and then it's discharging close to about 10 amps the discharging close to about 10 amps the discharging close to about 10 amps the temperature of the batter is also been temperature of the batter is also been temperature of the batter is also been on here it it took a little bit of time on here it it took a little bit of time on here it it took a little bit of time to warm up I will say earlier this to warm up I will say earlier this to warm up I will say earlier this morning because it was super freezing morning because it was super freezing morning because it was super freezing overnight but also if you go and take a overnight but also if you go and take a overnight but also if you go and take a look at the detail you can check or you look at the detail you can check or you look at the detail you can check or you can see the voltage of each cell that's can see the voltage of each cell that's can see the voltage of each cell that's inside the battery the PCB temperature inside the battery the PCB temperature inside the battery the PCB temperature and all the cell temperatures right so and all the cell temperatures right so and all the cell temperatures right so all of this stuff is in here this the all of this stuff is in here this the all of this stuff is in here this the version of the app but the important version of the app but the important version of the app but the important part is it tells you the state of charge part is it tells you the state of charge part is it tells you the state of charge and the amount of current that is going and the amount of current that is going and the amount of current that is going out right so uh based on your out right so uh based on your out right so uh based on your utilization you can figure out how much utilization you can figure out how much utilization you can figure out how much runtime you really get and also all the runtime you really get and also all the runtime you really get and also all the important information right so moving on important information right so moving on important information right so moving on from this let's go take a look at the from this let's go take a look at the from this let's go take a look at the victron app this is the victron direct victron app this is the victron direct victron app this is the victron direct uh smart app this is the app you use to uh smart app this is the app you use to uh smart app this is the app you use to connect to that smart Bluetooth dongle connect to that smart Bluetooth dongle connect to that smart Bluetooth dongle and as you can see right now this heat and as you can see right now this heat and as you can see right now this heat gun is using up around let's say around gun is using up around let's say around gun is using up around let's say around 600 V VA so VA is volt ampers if you're 600 V VA so VA is volt ampers if you're 600 V VA so VA is volt ampers if you're trying to figure out what that is it's trying to figure out what that is it's trying to figure out what that is it's like apparent power versus real power like apparent power versus real power like apparent power versus real power which is in Watts victron stuff a lot of which is in Watts victron stuff a lot of which is in Watts victron stuff a lot of the stuff is rated in VA so if you want the stuff is rated in VA so if you want the stuff is rated in VA so if you want to know how to convert between um U to know how to convert between um U to know how to convert between um U apparent power and real power you have apparent power and real power you have apparent power and real power you have to use your power factor I'm not going to use your power factor I'm not going to use your power factor I'm not going to go too much super detail into that to go too much super detail into that to go too much super detail into that cuz we're what we're really here to talk cuz we're what we're really here to talk cuz we're what we're really here to talk about is the you know the capacity so about is the you know the capacity so about is the you know the capacity so right now the AC output is you know right now the AC output is you know right now the AC output is you know fluctuating somewhere close between 110 fluctuating somewhere close between 110 fluctuating somewhere close between 110 and 120 it's in a state of inverting and and 120 it's in a state of inverting and and 120 it's in a state of inverting and the battery voltage is right here at the battery voltage is right here at the battery voltage is right here at 52. 3 the load here is fluctuating 52. 3 the load here is fluctuating 52. 3 the load here is fluctuating between 600 500 uh VA but if I turn up between 600 500 uh VA but if I turn up between 600 500 uh VA but if I turn up the heat gun let's turn up the heat gun the heat gun let's turn up the heat gun the heat gun let's turn up the heat gun speed to speed to speed to Max so there we go the heat gun is Max so there we go the heat gun is Max so there we go the heat gun is actually at maximum speed something actually at maximum speed something actually at maximum speed something that's Max setting and it's using up that's Max setting and it's using up that's Max setting and it's using up close to around 1200 VA so this is a close to around 1200 VA so this is a close to around 1200 VA so this is a 1200v pure sine wave inverter but 1200v pure sine wave inverter but 1200v pure sine wave inverter but because of it low frequency design you because of it low frequency design you because of it low frequency design you can actually uh what is it um uh have can actually uh what is it um uh have can actually uh what is it um uh have have a bigger surge rating so uh but the have a bigger surge rating so uh but the have a bigger surge rating so uh but the important thing that you really want to important thing that you really want to important thing that you really want to know from this is that how much you're know from this is that how much you're know from this is that how much you're pulling out of this inverter because pulling out of this inverter because pulling out of this inverter because that way you can see how much additional that way you can see how much additional that way you can see how much additional capacity you have in the case of um like capacity you have in the case of um like capacity you have in the case of um like how much you want to run out of this how much you want to run out of this how much you want to run out of this thing so a lot of people are going to thing so a lot of people are going to thing so a lot of people are going to say 1 12200 VA is not that much say 1 12200 VA is not that much say 1 12200 VA is not that much especially if you're using let's say uh especially if you're using let's say uh especially if you're using let's say uh devices that are power factor of like devices that are power factor of like devices that are power factor of like 7. 7 then that's going to be somewhere 7. 7 then that's going to be somewhere 7.